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Dis-functional Paralysis: It's difficult to describe USGenWeb, to put it into words. In my dream, an Angel told me USGenWeb was suffering from Dis-functional Paralysis syndrome.
USGenWeb is a monster with at least five heads. The paranoid State Coordinators who never agree on anything. The CC's who have no clue what-up. The NC who takes her Que from the RAL, and the Advisory Board who cannot decide what their purpose is in life. It's a mixed up, crazy, mentally intoxicated organization too paralyzed to act in a rational or mature manner on just about every issue or imagined issue.
This is truly a day of days.
January 17, 2012
January 16, 2012
Girls Gone Wild
From our friends at USGenWeb, the sky is still falling,
aliases are smashing everything. The latest of a long, dragged-out(drugged
out?) discussion comprised mostly of bullshit ideas, comes this.
At 01:40 PM 1/15/2012, Nancy rote:
Another thought...if someone chooses to use an alias, there should probably be
a restriction that it cannot be offensive to the public at large. As much as I
hate putting controls throughout the project, it may make sense to state that
an alias must be approved prior to adding it to a site within the project.
The aliases have been invading USGenWeb from the mini-planet of
Pluto since NCGenWeb was created. When are those volunteers going to get a clue
and join one of the Pleasant Projects? It beats the hell out of me!
Meanwhile back in the real world: The YMCA (the Y) shut down
everything in Northern Nevada. Lack of Money was the culprit. Was it? The Y
was a great idea 50 years ago. It was a place where middle-class parents sent their
kids for recreation and to meet new friends. Kids today spend their time on the
computer and cell phones.
One citizen said the Y will never die because it is an idea, not a building. No, it’s dead, believe me, It Is Dead. It’s like some of those marginal Genealogy Projects hanging on for life. Does a Project really need to be incorporated? For what reason? A famous example of a failed Project was the incorporation in Florida GenWeb. Do Projects really need a Board of Directors? Do Projects really need an Advisory Board that controls rather than advises? Do we have to grit out teeth because USGenNet is fading into the sunset? Those are IDEAS. People are stubborn. They hate change, even change for the best.
One citizen said the Y will never die because it is an idea, not a building. No, it’s dead, believe me, It Is Dead. It’s like some of those marginal Genealogy Projects hanging on for life. Does a Project really need to be incorporated? For what reason? A famous example of a failed Project was the incorporation in Florida GenWeb. Do Projects really need a Board of Directors? Do Projects really need an Advisory Board that controls rather than advises? Do we have to grit out teeth because USGenNet is fading into the sunset? Those are IDEAS. People are stubborn. They hate change, even change for the best.
Kristen Stewart: I did some digging and found that the five
foot actress who is a multimillionaire bought a home in LA when she turned 18
years old. Who shares that big house with her? Does she really smoke cigarettes?
What does she eat to look sixteen forever? About her using the Xxxk word. I
found the original statement on a video clip from a Red Carpet event. She did not
say, Xxxk everyone and be happy. She said, Xxxk everyone and be healthy. She immediately
corrected herself. What I meant to say was, don’t worry what others think and be healthy. The X-word?
She uses it often, as do others her age.
A jewel on the net that may be the next “in” thing is https://www.tumblr.com/ Tumblr. This could be used for a nice
genealogy blog by someone if they find this blog too offensive.
January 03, 2012
Tears fall like rain
It is the new year. USGenNet is still online, polluting the internet. I was to delete this blog on Jan. 5, but alas, it must not leave until the great Devil is slain. In my mind--and in the mind of great geniuses, USGenNet has caused more harm to online genealogy than all the rest of the world combined. Yet, they stay online, barely paying bills month-to-month. The sites they sponsor are some of the worst in the history of mankind.
BUT The future holds promise:
Family search.org PLUS Find-A-Grave EQUALS the death of USGenWeb.
So, it is written in the great book, so shall it be.
Meanwhile that new Project is growing. Members are joining one by one.
Regarding the other projects, Old Proverb Say, "He eat too many noodle. He stink."
BUT The future holds promise:
Family search.org PLUS Find-A-Grave EQUALS the death of USGenWeb.
So, it is written in the great book, so shall it be.
Meanwhile that new Project is growing. Members are joining one by one.
Regarding the other projects, Old Proverb Say, "He eat too many noodle. He stink."
December 31, 2011
Advisory Board or lynch mob?
From: board-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:board-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Sherri
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:50 PM
To: board@rootsweb.com
Subject: [BOARD] MOTION 2011/12-09 Update to the SC Guidelines re:
Unresponsive State Coordinators
Presented by Pat Asher and seconded by Jeff Kemp and dated 22 December 2011,
the motion reads:
"I move the following paragraph be added to "Volunteer and Web Site
Standards/Guidelines" (http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/guidelines.shtml)
under "Required for SCs & ASCs ...": State Coordinators are required to
notify the Election Committee of all changes to the State membership list on
a continuing or quarterly basis, and respond promptly to any special
requests for information from the Election Committee and/or Advisory Board
members.
Is there any discussion on this? If not, please respond with "no
discussion".
Sherri Bradley
National Coordinator
USGenWeb Project
Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org
Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml
December 03, 2011
Throw the Baby Out !
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Part 1 has grossed $550,000,000. Fans, millions
of young teens, are willing to spend their month’s allowance to see a Vampire
and a cute human girl roll around in the marriage bed. The acting is terrible,
but the characters are handsome. Movie producers will not throw good money
after bad. They know where the $$$’s are. But that is precisely what the Online
Genealogy Projects are doing, Wasting Good time and Energy into losing
enterprises.
Take a quick look at USGenNet. The whole of it is but a hollow
trunk. They have sunk mucho bucks into that ill-fated mouse trap since 1998.
Everything failed. Their US Data Repository has been around for years. It is
an empty bucket. Empty. The few web sites they still sponsor are some of the
worst in the world of genealogy: empty websites. Yet, it hangs on, polluting
the Internet.
ALHN: Good idea, except they followed the same format as
USGenWeb. On the Alaska site, for instance, they say this:
Notice: ALHN AK is hosted by USGenNet, Inc., a nonprofit Safe Haven educational web-hosting service providing historical and historical-genealogical Free-access websites. USGenNet is solely supported by tax-deductible contributions. If you have received a benefit from your visit here today, please consider making a contribution to USGenNet and support Free-access online history and genealogy.
Notice: ALHN AK is hosted by USGenNet, Inc., a nonprofit Safe Haven educational web-hosting service providing historical and historical-genealogical Free-access websites. USGenNet is solely supported by tax-deductible contributions. If you have received a benefit from your visit here today, please consider making a contribution to USGenNet and support Free-access online history and genealogy.
I ask you this: Is our job as genealogists to support USGenNet
or to put data online? Which?
On the California ALHN site are 47 counties up for adoption. I’m not picking on California or Alaska, they are typical of the web sites at ALHN. They have been following the USGenWeb format since creation with marked failure. One definition of insanity is to keep trying the same thing over and over expecting different results. Time to give it up.
Over on TTTP the most prominent request is for Volunteers.
One TTTP’er even went of Facebook and asked for 500 volunteers to come to TTTP’s
rescue. FIVE-HUNDRED?? Where they coming from?
Time to give it up.
Time to give it up.
The other two Projects Genealogy trails and Lost Souls are
in the same sinking boat. They had grand ideas, but where are the Volunteers? A logical tact would be to join USGenWeb. Of course, the stench is so bad at USGenWeb that few knowledgeable
volunteers world venture into those polluted waters.
This leaves one Project to consider.You do know where volunteers, technical support, great management and state of the art FREE web space. You can see the water, but only you will decide to drink. If you prefer to die of thrust, so be it.
This leaves one Project to consider.You do know where volunteers, technical support, great management and state of the art FREE web space. You can see the water, but only you will decide to drink. If you prefer to die of thrust, so be it.
For The Daryl
November 27, 2011
Destroy Everyone
USGW eats their own. The AB killed all of the opponents of the imperial rulers. With no one else to kill, they are going after their own flesh. Destroy the SC's. Destroy 'em all, they say.
Cyndie wrote:
Just a suggestion...I think that there should be a notification of the non-response to the State Coordinator list after reasonable attempts to contact them but prior to beginning a recall process.
Pat Replied:
I totally agree. But if such notification is to be a requirement, then that rule has to be written some place.
Where? Should we rewrite Standard Rule II. REMOVAL OF AN SC OR ASC. to include a list of valid reasons for removal and requirements of notice and procedures?
Or should the steps preceding initiation of a recall process be left to the AB members to decide, based on specific circumstances of the situation and point in time?
Pat
end garbage quote
Yes, Dear ones, The AB now eats their own children. The day is near when SC's will be an endangered species. The unholy bond between the AB and the SC's has produced a mix of Voodoo and blood letting.
See it is, so be it.
For The Daryl
November 21, 2011
It Rolls downhill
Since they killed The Daryl, they have been attacking each other. Over the past month or two, they have been discussing how to destroy other Volunteers if they were considered to be harassing another member. Well, Dear Ones, they used to take great pleasure in piling on The Daryl, calling him everything from a pedophile, criminal, shithead and other niece words, going to his house, taking photos of his house and in general shitting on him on the Net to the delighted leadership. They dropped their goal of killing members who they considered were harassing others because someone realized how stupid it was. Here is some other poo-poo.
Quote:
(To a usgenweb list )Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:35:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ABChat] Next Agenda Item, Discussion regarding unresponsive State Coordinators is now open.
Thanks, Sherri:
Sorry about my delay. I think I missed this.
Anyway, I placed this item on the agenda because I have had problems reaching at least 2 different SCs when I had questions about the state and about other issues in those states.
I believe both SCs were grandfathered SCs. I don't have a problem with the rule that grandfathered some SCs, but I do have a problem when the SC is not responsive to their own CCs, from questions sent by surfers to the SC or when the EC members contact them, or when anyone from the Board attempts to contact them.
I firmly believe that the SCs have a responsibility to be in touch and be available when they take on the roll of being a State Coordinator. Why would they be in that position if they do not want to help make a difference for others. Along with that goes the responsibility of being part of the USGenWeb and thus being responsive, not only to researchers,
but also to the USGenWeb itself. It is unconscionable to be unresponsive in that position. It's one thing to have issues come up and time periods when one cannot be reached, but not on any long term basis.
One SC I repeatedly sent emails to over a period of time and never once received a response. Finally, I emailed an ASC and got a wholly negative response from that person.
I believe there needs to be some procedure to deal with unresponsive SCs.
I would like to hear from others on this issue. Thanks.
Denise
SEMA CC Rep
end quote
What the AB does not realize is that the SC's and ASC's have finally got their head out of the sand and want nothing to do with an imperial Advisory Board who has all but destroyed one of the finest organizational in the genealogy world.
For The Daryl
October 09, 2011
USGenNet - Farwell to Arms
Dick Tracey’s wrist watch was quaint, cute and fanciful. So
may it be said of USGenNet.
The list of notable donors to USGenNet (not to be confused
with USGenWeb) for 2011 includes the usual suspects who had differences
with USGenWeb or rootsweb.com. The leadership has changed little, if
any, over the course of its existence. The leadership includes: Virginia
Cisewski, Bill Oliver, Rhoda Fone, Debbie Axtman, Pam Rietsch, Margie Daniels,
Stan Schwarze, Janet Schwarze, Jim Cole, Connie Burkett, Fred Smoot, and so on.
The stated goal of USGenNet was to bring free genealogy and
history to the internet. Their famous slogan in 2007, “Copycats on the Loose!”
It detailed instances of other Projects using ‘their’ data. (USGenNet claims it is Not a “Project”, but merely a provider of web space for Projects. Common
sense concludes otherwise.) http://www.usgennet.org/usgnhome/new2007.html
The historical goal of USGenNet might arguably be to wage a guerilla war against Rootsweb and to gain control of the USGenWeb Project.
The historical goal of USGenNet might arguably be to wage a guerilla war against Rootsweb and to gain control of the USGenWeb Project.
USGenNet was not bashful in using power to achieve their
goals, which might include going medieval on anyone they considered an enemy.
This text snip illustrates the power which they enjoyed:
http://www.radix.net/~merope/february2006.txt
Quote :SHOT IN THE FOOT: After yesterday's DBS, USGenNet helpfully published a series of emails, screenshots, and scans of various things in an apparent effort to defend its actions against Charles "Little Dog" Barnum and further assassinate his character. They are posted here:
http://www.radix.net/~merope/february2006.txt
Quote :SHOT IN THE FOOT: After yesterday's DBS, USGenNet helpfully published a series of emails, screenshots, and scans of various things in an apparent effort to defend its actions against Charles "Little Dog" Barnum and further assassinate his character. They are posted here:
We'll note a couple of things right off the bat. The first
"document" contains some excerpts of an email that Charles sent to
several recipients back at the end of January. We happen to have been one of
them, so we have a copy of the full email, and its nowhere near as snarky and trouble-making
as USGenNet would have you believe. Charles wanted to make a site that would link
directly to all county data wherever it may be held [although he excepted the
Archives from this]. He asked his correspondents to let him know what they
thought of this idea:
"What if we established a web site that listed every
database on USGENWEB Counties? It would have a list of states and under the
states a list of counties, and under counties a list of links to databases. I
do not mean we would invite people to submit links to us; we would just collect
them state-by-state. If you could see the web site name, you’d understand. Our
site would have no Byheehaws, no advisory board, no guidelines, no copyright
statement, no logos and no State Coordinators. It would not be a web ring and
no one would have to link to us. The county coordinators could do as the see
fit or even resign from USGW, but their links would remain as long as they were
valid links. No, I am not talking about stealing data. We’d collect links to counties
databases—not data. This is not an easy assignment. I built one for a state
awhile back, and I’ve learned from that. I’d pay for the domain name but I need
no-strings attached web space. I can’t do it alone. Fifty volunteers would be
optimum but I’d take 10 dedicated volunteers. Would it draw visitors? Yes, in
time. Cream rises to the top. Remember Cyndi’s list? That used to be a good
until it became a list of commercial sites. Ours will be 1000% better. If you
are interested and wiling to take risks, contact me. You’ll find me in
NM."
We have no idea what any of Charles' recipients thought of his proposal, but apparently one of them thought enough of it to forward it to USGenNet, which promptly took away his web space, message boards, and mailing lists. …” End Quote.
We have no idea what any of Charles' recipients thought of his proposal, but apparently one of them thought enough of it to forward it to USGenNet, which promptly took away his web space, message boards, and mailing lists. …” End Quote.
Regardless of the missteps the leadership took in the above Amanda
Knox type prosecution, one fact is that USGenNet is a Dick Tracy wrist watch in
the world of BlackBerrys and Smart Phones.
After USGenWeb separated from rootsweb.com, the fire burning in the heart of USGenNet became a dying ember.
The diaries and self-serving emails and inglorious web pages
do not prove that USGenNet is innocence of anything; they have no weight, because
the mislead can come up with their own version of stories like 'hard
core criminals' who think that they are always innocent.
Perhaps their failure might be traced to the strong arm
tactics by some of their troops. Or, perhaps they had the wrong motivation
in the first place-fist, and second place-second. Why does man not follow their
hearts instead of following others? To avoid that trap, we must all do what we know
is right. We all die, sooner than expected, better to follow your heart because
we're all naked. We have nothing to lose, it is already gone. Farwell
USGenNet; if what we think is true, you will fold in a matter of weeks.
For The Daryl
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