Nola vs. Nola
Some USGenWeb members will believe other members based upon how much stuff they have on their USGenWeb sites. It doesn't make any difference what the other member says, if their sites have lots of stuff they must be a believable person, no matter what they say. During elections some members will visit candidate's sites, and vote for the one who has the most stuff online.
Nola has a reputation for putting lots of stuff on her sites, as well as a reputation for spreading stories among members she thinks might believe her, about other members she is convinved are members simply to destroy the USGenWeb. It doesn't make any difference if what Nola says is true or not, her stories must be believed because she has lots of stuff on her sites. The remainder of this post is an example of one reality verses Nola's reality.
> [Original Message]
> From: Nola Duffy
> To: CC Discussion List
> Date: 4/22/2010 5:55:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] You mean that Board?
>
> Mary, Mary,
>
> Enough! Some things are simply impossible!
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Daryl Lytton
> > To: CC Discussion List
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] You mean that Board?
> >
> >
> > people like me look good.
> >
> > D.A.R.Y.L.
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[Original Message]
From: Daryl Lytton
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/22/2010 6:29:00 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] You mean that Board?
You're [Nola Duffy] another one whose only apparent reason for being in the USGenWeb, is to make me look good. How long has it been ... 7 years? ... you've been accusing me of being a member of the USGenWeb only for the reason of trying to destroy it. How many pages was your grievance against me ... 8? 10? 15? ... full of nothing but illogical accusations with no foundation, you couldn't even state what rules(s) I had broken, and so your grievance was tossed out as being invalid, because I broke no rules.
All those years of you harassing me, judged to be invalid by the GC [Grievance Committee]. Luckily we got the most corrupt members confined to NCGenWeb, some of the honest ones left to join Trails to the Past.
I wouldn't want to see all the work you spent on your corrupt grievance going to a waste though, and so I'll add it to the Stalkers website as soon as I have the time. Then everyone else can laugh at you, also. I'm the one who manages the site, Mary does the blog.
Daryl
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/22/2010 8:35:44 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] You mean that Board?
Daryl,
I did not address anything to you - only to your alter ego of Mary.
As for my grievance, get it straight. It was NOT tossed out. I decided to simply drop it rather than waste more time on you. I hope you are happy with Trails to the Past. Be happy and productive in the group of your choice and leave the USGenWeb in peace and you will be simply a bad memory. I believe posting my grievance is against the rules but that has never stopped you. You just choose another name so you can not be blamed. However, posting the words of my grievance was gainst the rules the last time I checked and although I said nothing I am ashamed of, embarrass yourself if you wish so I can then ask that you be removed from the USGenWeb for violation of the GC rules....
Nola
We are unable to find anything in the Grievance Bylaw or Procedures related to posting the contents of a grievance that is not a grievance. More about this below, including Nola's contention she never filed a grievance but only thought about doing so. --mw
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[Original Message]
From: Daryl Lytton
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/24/2010 5:31:59 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] In like Wow!
[....] if in your mind you think you have any valid reasons to file a grievance against me, you're always welcome to file another 15-pager that says nothing. I actually feel sorry for you spending all that time compiling your grievance in pdf format, only to realize that I was right and you were wrong ... you were unable to state any rules I had broken.
Daryl
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/25/2010 12:39:14 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Just a new opinion
After reading all the various posts about the new proposed "gag rule" being discussed in areas across the USGenWeb, I have had a change of heart. I intend to write to my ABs representatives proposing that all gag rules be relegated to the trash bin and, to the contrary, I propose that all grievances be completely public. Those who are screaming the loudest about the gag rules will be the first to change their tune the moment their many threats are exposed for the entire membership to see. Anyone who has been exposed to their threats against every member of the AB for the past 7, almost 8 years, would certainly have a completely different opinion of the character and credibility behind the threats. For example, a majority of all grievances filed over the years since day one have been filed by not more than 3 or 4 members out of a membership of 2000 +/- at any given point in time. However, the same 3 or 4 individuals have written thousands upon thousands of letters threating members of the AB, year after year. Over the years the project has lost a lot of good talent and leadership simply because they have decided life is too short to have 3 or 4 individuals monopolize the attention of the entire project, year after year after year. I think it might shed some real light on how much time is taken by the same 3-4 members, under whatever name they are using at the moment, to monopolize the agenda of the entire USGenWeb year after year.
Just curious, how do others feel? Obviously there is a leak, either on the GC or AB, that placed a copy a grievance I was contemplating in the hands of Daryl and yes, I do believe he has the copy he is bragging about and can even make an educated guess about who provided it. Daryl has threatened to post his illegal copy but instead of being upset, I would not mind at all if it was public. That has never been done but why not? If anyone really has a true basis for a grievance beyond just promoting one or more personal agendas, they should not be ashamed to say so. I am certainly not ashamed of the grievance that I contemplated but then dropped. I also determined that it was not worth my time but if we all take that attitude, we are doing the entire project a disservice. I would only redact the names of 3rd parties who are not part of the grievance but let the rest hang out.
Rather than let one person continue to assert their version of what the By-Laws permit or do not permit, I also propose that an actual attorney or paralegal with broad experience make the determination about the merits of the grievances before they are either accepted or rejected. Yes, I mean a REAL attorney and not one hiding behind an anonymous e-mail quickly obtained from one of the providers of anonymous e-mail accounts.
I also propose that no one be allowed to file a grievance or serve on any national committee without providing the AB and/or a non-biased attorney valid contact information that has been verified. That would at least stop all the grievances filed by aliases. According to Daryl, there must still be aliases hiding in the NCGenWeb as evidenced by his boasting, self-serving statements about his many "spies". Now tell me, why would anyone who has not been a member of the NCGenWeb since 2002 be so obsessed about the NCGenWeb that they want "spies" to report the internal workings of the project to them. I honestly thought we had gotten rid of the last aliases when one of most notorious of the "alias" CCs using various names left quickly when they lost their protective AOL account with 7 screen names. They were not dismissed but simply left - all at once in one day - without any prompting. Still, I was wrong, there was one left and yes, he/she did file a grievance when they were removed by the former SC who did not even ask the current board in advance but only announced the removal after the fact. I am not on the NCGenWeb board any longer and am glad to be free from the normal constraints that responsible board members have always adhered to. In fact, the ONLY reason the same individuals have survived as members in the USGenWeb is because there is no collective memory or record of all their past mis-deeds.
Funny how politics makes strange bed-fellows since Daryl now embraces the same SC who in turn finds his hate blog a convenient out-let for posting her version of the truth. Since both personalities obviously have control issues, it should be interesting to see how long this friendship will last once each starts jockying for control in their new home. At the moment they are happy since Daryl is finally a SC and Diane Siniard is also a SC on Trails to the Past. This strange coincidence will last only so long as neither of them decide they want more control over their new project and then the same trash will start again. Daryl had no interest in the USGenWeb until after he had destroyed IIGS and then abandoned it on the trash heap of history. No, IIGS was no longer a place to vent his particular frustrations with his world but he quickly decided that there was a new project, the USGenWeb that would serve as his new target. If he ever manages to destroy the USGenWeb, it will also be relagated to the trash heap of history and he will move on to the successor.
What if the true CCs across the country decided to start their own blog with anonymous posts of their own interactions and horrific experiences with Daryl over the years and started telling their own stories. Geez, that should be fun! Naturally just like Daryl, we would NOT allow the 3 or 4 individuals who he treasures to post. Daryl even blocked his nearest and dearest buddy, Diane Mason Kelly, from responding to Diane Sinaird's posts since it does not fit into his latest scheme. Why should 2000+ members have to put up with 3 or 4 whose sole purpose is to destroy the USGenWeb. Sounds like a good plan but you can believe, it will not happen. Normal people spend time doing genealogy instead of living a sad excuse of a life trying to be top dog.
Any thoughts?
Nola
Thoughts? The "illegal copy" of the grievance Nola Duffy claims "was contemplating" to file against Daryl Lytton, needs no "educated guess about who provided it". --mw
----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Newport
To: Nola Duffy; Daryl Lytton
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:00 PM
Subject: Notification of Acceptance of Grievance 2009/12-30
Daryl,
This is to inform you that a grievance has been filed against you. The grievance is being referred to as grievance 2009/12-30. Attached is a copy of the grievance against you. You will be contacted by a mediator once we have assigned one to this grievance so that mediations can begin....
Joel Newport
Assistant Coordinator
Grievance Committee
Daryl protested the grievance violated his Rights of Due Process because the grievance failed to state what rules he had violated (see Daryl's message in my "Massacre Part 2/4" post). The below came with no apology to Daryl, nor an explaination of how the grievance came to be accepted. --mw
[Original Message]
From: Joel Newport
To: Nola Duffy; Daryl Lytton
Cc: Sherri
Date: 2/10/2010 2:54:15 PM
Subject: Notification of withdrawal of Grievance 2009/12-30
This email is to inform both parties that Grievance 2009/12-30 has been withdrawn.
Joel Newport
Assistant GC Chair
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/25/2010 3:11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] New
Daryl,
Yes, do go work on the GenWebStalkers site. I would be ashamed to even use the name when it clearly says you want to stalk USGenWeb members and then hide behind a screen because you are too cowardly to admit you are responsible. It was o.k. for you as long as only Charles could be blamed for the trash and lies but here you are actually bragging about it. I could not be happier.
Well, if your high crimes and misdemeanors are not worthy of an arrest in NV, then I think I am safe. Besides, at my age it would be an easy way to get 3 good meals a day and a warm bed without worrying about paying for it. I would then have a lot more money left to support the USGenWeb.
Nola
Most people know when they need glasses to see what is in front of their face. In reality, "it clearly says you want to stalk USGenWeb members," says, "Stalking the Truth About the USGenWeb". But then some people only see what they want to see, and Nola was also unable to read that I do the Blog and Daryl does the Web site. --mw
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/25/2010 8:44:17 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] New
Daryl,
For some reason, the contents of your blog seem to have done a strange vanishing act. Sure am glad I d/l everything before I confronted you. Apparently you decided a lot of the trash and filth might not be true on closer examination and just deleted gobs of it. If you think that will stop me, dream on.. I already had every hate filled filthy word from each of the blogs. The only thing that will save you is the promise to delete them entirely and swear to never start another of threaten the NCGenWeb or AB with another law suit. Since I don't believe you are mentally capable of actually admiting guilt and issueing an apology on all USGenWeb lists, nothing has changed. There are still lies on many of the lists I am not even subbed to but can and have read.
If you do have an attorney, please have him contact me so that I can give him my attorney's name. Same for you Charles!
Short of that, I guess we will meet in person unless my attorney can handle it all without my personal appearance. Your own word, with the help of your few close friends, are all any court really needs to see but I will also provide money for any depositions the attorneys think might be helpful.
BTW, if anyone has anything they are willing to share that relate to Daryl's past threats please let me know. I don't even need to see them but will give anyone with information the address for my attorney. I am aware of some of the threats he has made over the years but not all by any means. It would take a full time asst. just to keep up with them since threats to the AB is almost a full time job for Daryl. Still, seems he has found time to start cleaning up the latest GenStalkers so if anyone wants to see the trash they had better hurry before it is all gone.
Why am I interested in his numerous threats to the AB members over the years, because I may just foot the bill for them to join as a body to seek damages from Daryl for his many threats.
Daryl, what an absolutely sniveling coward you are. As long as I did not get on here and raise hell about your trash, filth, lies and libel, you were having a ball but the moment you think it may actually get you into court, you run like a scared puppy dog.
Still thanks for cleaning it a bit but it will not stop me. My attorney already has all the trash and filth - before you hasty house cleaning!
Want to make a public apology and promise on threat of removal from the USGenWeb for life? We might have something to actually negotiate but it will only be in a formal document that is signed, sealed and notarized.
Nola
We know of no Blog posts that have done a "strange vanishing act" nor any other type of vanishing act, including being edited to remove material individuals perceive as being personally offensive. We report truths and facts as they are, we do not alter reality.
We did ask Daryl for an explaination for what Nola claims as "threats" and his reply was: "I know just as much as Nola does about the facts of the actions and events she accuses me of, i.e., nothing. As for the threats, they are USGenWeb Rights of Members as stated in the Bylaws and the Sturgis Rights of Members ... to insist that the rules be enforced, and to file a suit if they [the USGenWeb] refuse to do so.
We then asked Daryl if Nola has ever threatened him, and received the following:
> From: Nola Duffy nduffy@patch.net
> To: dlytton@mindspring.com; usgwp-cc@usgwp.org
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Killing the golden goose
>
> > Daryl said:
> > ....You had also stated that you intentionally post
> > and send messages to deliberately cause me emotional
> > duress.
> >
> > Daryl,
>
> I plead guilty to those statements that are my direct
> quotes and as for saying I would intentionally cause
> you emotional duress, it was part of a private message...
>
> Nola
So what is the threat? Nola knowing Daryl is disabled from anxiety and depression, using the Internet for threats of physical harm. Yes, the mind is part of our bodies. I am no lawyer but I do know Aggravated Internet Stalking is an category C felony in the state Daryl lives.
Nev. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 200.581. "Harassment, stalking or aggravated stalking shall be deemed to have been committed where the conduct occurred or where the person who was affected by the conduct was located at the time that the conduct occurred."
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Nola, apparently talking to herself, and still unaware that the truth is not libel.
[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/25/2010 10:20:14 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] New
Well it looks like our brave men have retired for the night so this little old lady will do the same. Stay tuned if you want to read more of the same but hopefully this list will return to the quiet peaceful place it was before Daryl and Charles decided to claim it as their own to advertise their trash, filth, lies and libel.
I have checked once more and there are still libelous statements on the site although they have tried their best to clean it up and Charles has suddenly become and innocent babe that has no idea what I am even complaining about. Oh how he must hope this will give him deniability but he just does not get it. Posting a "who me" after years of lies, trash and filth is certainly not going to save his fat a--!
Wonder where they will decide to start their new list of trash, filth, lies and libel! Stay tuned. One thing we do know is that Daryl never changes and where Daryl leads, Charles will follow. Funny, Gail seems to keep her head low but no doubt she is watching this closely.
Good night all!
Nola
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/25/2010 10:59:33 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Good Morning Friends
I missed this one. NO PROOF! Daryl has admitted is here on this list but you still want to say it is untrue. Do you really think there is no one in the USGenWeb with an ounce of brain other than you and your hero, Daryl Lytton!
Nola
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We do not question there are USGenWeb members with at least an ounce of brain, the question is how does one go about addressing the member's who have less than an ounce? --mw
[Original Message]
From: Daryl Lytton
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 12:01:37 AM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Good Morning Friends
Nola Nola Nola ... sigh ... you have no idea how sorry I feel for your mental condition. You constantly claim to have proof of this and proof of that. Just like the 15 page grievance you filed against me, convinced in your mind that I had done something wrong, yet you were unable to say what, or what rules I had broken. I've never known someone to loose as many emails of "proof" as you claim you have received. Perhaps you are the only one able to see all of those emails?
The "proof" you claim below [above], happened during the last 24 [sic] hours. Please provide us with a copy of my message where I admitted that I was Mary. Or did that message also magically disappear from your computer?
Daryl
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 12:12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Good Morning Friends
Daryl,
We will simply let the courts decide so don't fret your poor mind about it since you are much to busy threatening the AB once again. Do you never tire of trying to destroy anyone and everyone who simply gets in your way? You have done nothing else your entire adult life and apparently it did start in your teens according to your own court records. BTW, I thought you were going to post my proposed grievance. What happened to that threat?
Nola
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[Original Message]
From: Daryl Lytton
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 12:51:03 AM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Good Morning Friends
yes ... your attorney ... the one who never showed up on the grievance list we were subbed to. Does he exist in the left, or the right part of your imagination? I know that you have an attorney [....] And I know he declined to participate in the grievance after he found out who I was.
And I know why he is your attorney ... because you pay him. You can't buy friends Nola. You can't buy the NCGenWeb by paying for the server. You can't buy the USGenWeb by giving money to Joy Fisher for the server. You can't buy Joy Fisher by letting her stay at your condo.
My friends are my friends because we respect each other. I could never buy the friends that I have. I'm so sorry that you believe you can buy friendship.
Daryl
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 12:20:48 AM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Good Morning Friends
Daryl,
Actually, this list will probably get a much need break from our sparing match as of tomorrow. I would expect that my attorney will instruct me to no communicate with anyone once the legal work is underway so you will not have to listen to me and can just continue threatening, scheming and destruction without having to concern yourself with my posts and obviously my attorney will advise me not to respond to anything. I also plan to let any AB member know that I will provide an attorney to represent any AB member you threaten to sue so I would image they will be told to block all your e-mail as well after telling you they have been advised not to respond to any further threats from you and to block your e-mail. However, that is only my thoughts if the AB should decide to ignore your threats and simply wait for your threatened litigation. It would certainly free much of their time because once again, your obsession is to destroy anything and anyone you can not threaten into agreeing with you.
You are too sick for any sympathy but too dangerous to ignore.
Nola
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[Original Message]
From: Daryl Lytton
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 12:27:16 AM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Good Morning Friends
So once again ... the proof you claim to have seen here on this list, posted within the last 24 [sic] hours, of me claiming to be Mary, has magically vanished from your computer.
I really feel very sorry for you Nola. I just can't tell you how sorry I am. Nope, I really can't tell you.
Daryl
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 12:38:24 AM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] Good Morning Friends
Save your pity for yourself since you will need it once the courts are through with you. Unlike you, I will say it publicly and not try to hide behind idle threats. You were given every opportunity to decide you would clean up your act but you are so full of yourself and believe our threats can dictate the agenda for a project of 2000 members. Instead, you want to be able to simply threaten every AB, year after year after year. I can't speak for any AB but I can say this old lady will not tolerate one more moment of your lies and libel. Now I am going to bed so go do your thing, post your trash and filth and who the world what an impotent ogre you really are!
Nola
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[Original Message]
From: Nola Duffy
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 2:27:50 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] My Wonderful Memories
To the relief of many I can honestly say this will be my last post on this list for sometime, maybe ever. As previously stated, once it was in the hands of my attorney, I would not communicate further with either Daryl or Charles. I finished a conference with the law firm representing me within the past hour and the decisions were made about exactly the way this would proceed. If they have anything to communicate it will only be through my attorney(s). The first notice from my attorney will be sent by certified mail to both no later than in the morning. At that point, they will have my attorney's name and address to provide to their own attorney or attorneys as the case may be so if they have any smarts at all, the trash, filth, lies and libel from these two will stop. Do I believe it will - NO! I don't think either of them are smart enough to realize what legal liability they have exposed themselves to. Even if they don't have a dime to be attached for any damages recovered, it is going to cost them legal fees to avoid a default judgment to say nothing of the costs for representation for interrogatories and the courts will not appoint free legal representation in civil matters. Apparently they long ago determined that it was a price they were willing to pay for their crimes and pay it they can! Each was given a last chance on this list to cease and desist and obviously it is easy for all to see that their answer was a resounding NO!
Daryl has often tried the ploy of asking if the person he was threatening at the moment would agree to leave the USGenWeb forever if they lost. Now I will ask the same question of Daryl. Will he leave the USGenWeb in peace without more threats if he loses? I honestly don't think he can because of his own obsessive delusions but we will see. He did promise once that he would not run for any office for 10 years but we all know how long that latest - just long enough for him to get out of jail and start his next round of filth, lies and libel.
I will not be surprised to hear that Daryl's defence is his mental disability and no doubt my attorney will probably get a letter from his supposed attorney or lawyer saying that Daryl is mentally incapable of standing trial but the ploy will not work this time.
I will only post again once this matter has come to a conclusion, either through binding arbitration based on condition of incarceration for violating the agreement or by a final non-appealable judgement of the courts.
Bye my friends!
Nola
We assume Nola speaks of "obsessive delusions" with great authority. --nw
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[Original Message]
From: Daryl Lytton
To: CC Discussion List
Date: 4/26/2010 3:09:47 PM
Subject: Re: [USGWP-CC] My Wonderful Memories
I only read the first sentence of your message, because I already know it's worthless to read any more.
I've lost track of how many times you've said "I can honestly say" but all of the emails you claim to have supporting your delusions can't be found on your computer.
And I've lost track of how many times you've said "this will be my last post" on both this and the Discuss lists. How you can "honestly" claim "last post" in the same sentence is beyond me, but then I'm sane.
Good bye, and I hope reading your imaginary emails keeps you busy.
Daryl
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That list returned to peace with an unanswered question: Who is Nola's worst enemy? Daryl, or Nola herseslf? We reported, you decide. --mw
